the European union and economic issues; southern Europe, Greece, Spain, and economics. Explaining the difference institutions of the European Union; representation of national governments in the European Union.

    • National governments are no in control of their own budgets, but rather have these budgets dictated to them by the European institutions; interest rates are set.
    • Talked about the effects on austerity in general; reduction of public investment welfare, et cetera.
      • Used Greece and Spain as the major examples of this process.
    • Gave suggestions/thoughts on what needs to be done in relation to European treaties; worker’s rights, etc.
  • Nathan 2 on the undemocratic nature of the European Union.
  • Walker asked a question about the comparison between the Greek and Spanish examples.
    • Dani disagrees that there is a strong relationship to be seen between the Greek and Spanish examples. However, both economies were suffering industrialization.
  • Zozan asked a question about the undemocratic structure of the EU in general. To which extent do regular people have any power whatsoever in the decision-making process. The role of the nation state as escaping popular responsibility; rather they, as states, maintain power when it comes to decisions made within he EU structure.
  • Zara directed a question at Nathan 2; clarification of his question above.
    • Nathan 2: National governments have lost power to make fiscal and economic policy.
    • Zara asks about solutions.
    • Dani suggests a move from capitalism to socialism.
    • Nathan 2 on Varofakis.
  • Phil on the way Linke explains other left movements; Syriza and Podemos given as examples.
  • Judith on how the European parliament is not a real parliament insofar as it does not have the ability to suggest new law. Also spoke more about the special and powerful role of Germany; ie. Germany can break certain rules about export that other countries should not.
  • Oicin on the issue with moving the focus on the lack of control under the EU, as if we democratically ran our countries in the past. Romance with old social democracy rather than a turn to a socialist form of organizing the economy.
  • Dani raps up meeting with some conversation and disagreement with Oicin about the above issue. Essentially, how much freedom did governments really have in the past?
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